From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 29 14:28:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7709C16A403; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F3013C457; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2TESTTp059326; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:28:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <460BCD09.9030409@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:28:25 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20070323212254.54F7D73039@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> <20070323214145.GA3822@krapfengeist> <46044D6C.1070304@samsco.org> <86648lsmmu.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070328181335.GA24652@xor.obsecurity.org> <86wt10qyqw.fsf@dwp.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86wt10qyqw.fsf@dwp.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:28:36 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: FreeBSD Tinderbox , Matteo Riondato , i386@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: [head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:28:43 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Kris Kennaway writes: >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:11:53PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: >>> No, the tinderbox just uses -O2 (which implies -fno-strict-aliasing). >> No, it implies -fstrict-aliasing, > > Sorry, typo on my part. I meant what you said. > >> which is why the tinderbox often breaks on code that was tested 100% >> correctly by the committer prior to running with your nonstandard >> flags ;) > > The code was obviously not tested 100% correctly, as the C standard > forbids aliasing. Unfortunately, there are people in this project who > systematically oppose any attempt to improve code quality, especially > when it comes to their own code, and they have succeeded to the extent > that not only is -O2 not the default, but the kernel build system is > even instrumented to prevent its full use. > > DES I think you need to chill out quite a bit and stop assuming that people are incompetent and out to get you. Scott