From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Apr 29 01:29:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE62158FC1C for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 01:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from smtp2.bway.net (smtp2.v6.bway.net [IPv6:2607:d300:1::28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7BDF8588E for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 01:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [68.200.119.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: spork@bway.net) by smtp2.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF3269587F; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base From: Charles Sprickman In-Reply-To: <15583041-1D56-44BE-8E88-ECC11C935A09@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:29:37 -0400 Cc: kris@ixsystems.com, FreeBSD Stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <34C3A77A-7B18-487E-9BC4-5B1087FEEBEA@bway.net> References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> <15583041-1D56-44BE-8E88-ECC11C935A09@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: Paul Mather X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D7BDF8588E X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.94 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:d300:1::28/128]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bway.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bway.net,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx2.bway.net,mx1.bway.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.42)[-0.424,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8059, ipnet:2607:d300::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bway.net:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[bway.net.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 01:29:56 -0000 > On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather = wrote: >=20 > On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, = wrote: >=20 >> FreeBSD Community, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and = 13-current >> using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images = which >> will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command = directly. >> Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement, = we've >> created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this page, and = let us >> know if you have additional questions that we can include on that = page going >> forward. >=20 >=20 > I currently keep my FreeBSD/arm and FreeBSD/arm64 systems up to date = via PkgBase in FreeBSD 12. It works well for me (crossbuilding and = hosting the PkgBase repository on a FreeBSD/amd64 system). >=20 > What is the difference between the above CFT-created PkgBase and one = created via "make packages" using the native build system = (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase)? Looking at the FAQ you linked = (https://trueos.github.io/pkgbase-docs/), it seems the above CFT system = is less granular than the one currently produced via the in-tree "make = packages" (which could be a good thing from a simplicity standpoint). = Is there anything else? >=20 > Is the above CFT-produced packages the system that will ultimately = become the way packaged base is produced in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, or is = it just an alternative you want people to try out and evaluate? I guess = I'm not clear what "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base means. :-) What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as = =E2=80=9Cmergemaster=E2=80=9D? Is there anything exciting and new there = either in base or any of the ixSystems projects? Thanks, Charles >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Paul. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"