From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 01:58:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669B21065675 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF898FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbmv11 with SMTP id v11so1980557vbm.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:58:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZdJtL4nfFYyKANpGhYi2PN3Gu/3X42FUQ0FDMergqgI=; b=AOimH+HNQGrfWcAcR1Nsntj9J06aMq0+CptwRXYd+r1zIbLoIfFGF0ebpaSGncbIiu oEG/Dsy3GyiQK8PJw7G531EES8wXGnQWc2hFXgDphB4YRdT5qVFpJhwwgt4EMfqs1S1R rKb3JB85O/BqSxL+uI/SO7YX1rCDkJ16mmmFc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZdJtL4nfFYyKANpGhYi2PN3Gu/3X42FUQ0FDMergqgI=; b=DC4n01DiKilMz/4gY9VH2wN/jUgJyNSGEG6cgQB6lW0P4sCopE1vEKvCZLqIQSPbqN B2A4rMvbqpJNRRvpUOlKG4nQnwnoPkWs/xq0P54j/+YEzjIXDKFb9WdvdNgj202E7vjN YXsdmvb8y1lbGKEhSwzZNvtA/z/6+ljbmm9FbtRoPnd/+jhLLGV0BHFrfDqj2U6L03aJ V0tYL38IEo/UjgODB6WHOjpTFHL0yMhhgI2m1aLqZArrl0acthKTxtTBKb6wCA/d+HpL A7j/f1GQZRt59R1kEYoMmEhxalz5+XPJWjLoH0bM2xEm6MpAdC7WYCMu5jK/WOL9rwmG h1dQ== Received: by 10.220.141.202 with SMTP id n10mr3098803vcu.49.1345773495273; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:58:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.190.227 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:57:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:57:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steve Wills Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmU3G4GBCSr155+R7ZGZcFyqlANSThdWyy5V035Aba4yQtT/3EwZIe9fpjJG6P9IWpfRrbG Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:58:16 -0000 On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills wrote: > Hi, > > It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin= /pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing th= at running the command gets different results the second time it is run vs.= the first time. I can imagine a user saying "I ran pkg, but it didn't do w= hat they said it would. Now I run it again, and it does do what it is supp= osed to." Also, it would enable setting up a pkg-bootstrap man page separat= e from the pkg man page, without confusion about which one you're looking a= t. > > So, opinions? There may still be time to fix it for 9.1 if we can decide = quickly. no opinion on the name, but imho there should be *something* called "pkg" on a fresh system. Users will install a new system, follow some random how-to, and not realize they missed a step. If the default package errors with exit code 1 and says "run pkgbootstrap first" that is okay too. --=20 Eitan Adler