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[93.87.107.147]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ej9sm23467713wjd.7.2016.06.19.00.41.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57664C9F.5070100@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:41:19 +0200 From: Ivan Radovanovic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130812 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mathieu Prevot CC: Russell Haley , romain@freebsd.org, Freebsd-mono Subject: Re: maintaining ports and mono References: <5763A1F6.9090501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mono@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Mono and C# applications on FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:41:23 -0000 On 06/17/2016 23:41, Mathieu Prevot napisa: > > > IMHO opinion there is no interest to have Mono running properly on > FreeBSD from either side. Original mono developers are even proud to > say they don't care about having it run on *BSD, > > Do you have reference to such thing ? list archive ? I think it might be > right in the past, the teams might have changed, and the mindset might > have changed, and ultimately, does it matter ? > Actually checking mono project page now (after very long time), I might be wrong - FreeBSD apparently is listed now among supported platforms http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/supported-platforms/ (that wasn't the case before, but I don't have any experience running more recent version of mono, latest I tried was the one I created patch for FileSystemWatcher since that was always broken on FreeBSD and ASP.Net was pain to run without it) > > Sounds really good :) Do you have an idea of the amount of lines / hours > to do such thing ? I keep all that in mind ! I keep probing and will > come back to you. Many thanks for proposing this. > If you have time/energy to spend trying to push those changes upstream to main mono or to keep them with port here are patches I wrote: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=198727 https://github.com/mono/xsp/compare/master...ir-soeasycorp:master Feel free to use this source any way you want :-) > > C# have many serious advantages such as linq, tasks, GC, the VM and many > things of a modern object oriented language. To me it's one of the most > pleasant language to work with, as a programmer. Then yes, the ecosystem > matters first. > For me single benefit from C# is .Net library which is really huge and well designed, so it allows rapid development, other than that I prefer deterministic memory management you have in C++ since C++11 (unfortunately C++ has STL which in its older parts is designed around active data structures idiom, making it not that pleasant to use). I also completely dislike idea of VM on server side, but I guess that is just me :-) Kind regards, Ivan