From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 20 05:27:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BECA1848A for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F60CDC5 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832054F860; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t9K5RGNs095432; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:16 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: NGie Cooper cc: Martin Cracauer , Yonas Yanfa , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <56237623.5010702@fizk.net> <20151019234406.GA88752@cons.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <95430.1445318836.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <95431.1445318836@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:27:18 -0000 -------- In message , NGie Cooper writes: >1. Why are there 2 competing technologies? They are not competing, they support two very different threat models. >3. Is there a gain/loss for removing gbde? Yes, you alienate a lot of users who very often are not even in a position to tell you they run FreeBSD. Think human rights activists for instance. >4. Why is it marked experimental [still]? To make people think. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .