From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 09:28:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFF516A4BF for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16E643FE3 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 22-15.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.22.15] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1A1q1q-0005Tb-00; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:28:43 -0700 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Tadimeti Keshav , Kris Kennaway Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:23:49 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309231123.49952.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bea935c6d2211dac280f3ac5948329127350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports on a CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:28:53 -0000 On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:04 am, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On > Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:59:30AM +0100, Tadimeti > > > Keshav wrote: > > > Guys, > > > Is it possible to get all of the ports on a CD > > > > set? > > > > > This is one area where Linux fares better. Debian > > > offers a 7 CD (OK they don'y make ISOs) set that > > > contains all packages. > > > > What are you really asking here? First you ask for > > ports (but the > > ports collection is on CD1), then you say debian > > includes packages on > > their CDs (so does FreeBSD). > > Well, remember that the ports collection is nothing > but the skeleton that can connect to the internet and > fetch the source files that you can compile. What I > was asking for is the facility to have all the sources > of all the ports on the CD. (SO you needn't connect to > the internet to build your machine). > > > > I think the FreeBSD distribution would be better > > > > off > > > > > having all ports on the 2 additional CDs rather > > > > than > > > > > have packages. > > > > Now you say "ports rather than packages", when both > > are shipped. > > > > Can you please clarify what you are asking? > > > > Kris > > Debian ships all DEB packages on the CDs. FreeBSD only > bundles some packages. For example, JDK is a port > while vim is a package. Would it not be better to cut > down on several packages of large size and ship the CD > with the sources needed to compile JDK etc. Hope U get > the point. > 1. JDK was not available as a package due to licensing restrictions. License restrictions also require end users to download the source directly from Sun. I **think** JDK 1.3 is now available as a package (having met certain licensing restrictions); but if you want to compile from source, you still need to download the source directly from Sun. 2. FreeBSD packages are available on CD's and DVD's from a couple of sources: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm http://www.unixdvd.com/ http://www.freebsd-services.com/ A longer list of FreeBSD vendors can be found at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html 3. Everything mentioned in #2 above can be found **easily** via the "Getting FreeBSD" link on the home page of the FreeBSD website. Best of luck, Andrew Gould