From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 15 21:03:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0439D16A468; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [204.119.0.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD66813C4C2; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5FKqmd7086812; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@ns.umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l5FKqmxc086811; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@ns.umpquanet.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:52:48 -0700 From: James Long To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, kde@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070615205248.GA62594@ns.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Java windows in KDE don't retain "Keep Above Others" attribute X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:03:49 -0000 (Please cc: me as I am not subscribed.) First, thanks to the java support team for all their work on the native FreeBSD implementation. I really appreciate it more than I can adequately express. With respect, I want to report a slight annoyance that I have found. It relates to window behaviour under KDE, so I am also copying kde@freebsd.org in case this problem falls in their camp. For most KDE windows, if I set the "Keep Above Others" attribute in the Advanced sub-menu (right-click title bar, Advanced, Keep Above Others), that setting persists across both "Minimize" and "Shade" operations. For example, Gnumeric and Seamonkey both retain the "Keep Above Others" attribute. That is, if I "KAO" a Gnumeric window, and then minimize it, I can see the other windows. If I then restore the minimized Gnumeric window, it stays above all other windows, indicating the "KAO" is still active. If I "KAO" a java window, it stays above others until I minimize it, but upon restoring the minimized Java window, the "KAO" bit has been cleared, and the window will not stay on top of others unless I re-set the KAO bit. This is evident both in the behaviour of the window, and also in the Advanced / Keep Above Others menu dialogue -- the little embossed up-icon that indicates that KAO is active is NOT there after I restore a minimized Java window. KAO gets turned off likewise when I Shade the window. If I Shade a Java window, then move the window focus to some other window, the Java window disappears behind the newly-selected window, even though the KAO bit is set on the Java window. Again, this is reflected in both the window behaviour and the loss of the embossed up-icon indicator. None the less, though, thanks again for a product which is very useable and dependable. Regards, Jim