From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 20:03:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9521B16A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:03:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9DF43D1F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0FF1AA3 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99473-04 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96693F1936 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:03:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040927195139.GA38187@parodius.com> References: <20040925205030.M69999@www.ideaway.net> <20040927193904.GB1016@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20040927195139.GA38187@parodius.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-sOBdv3bsPZytZB6V3cnJ" Message-Id: <1096315383.24981.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:03:03 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com Subject: Re: USB memory stick hotswap problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:03:09 -0000 --=-sOBdv3bsPZytZB6V3cnJ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:51, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Whoa, easy there. I think Mike was just providing some (what may > be considered superfluous/obvious) feedback to the issue at hand; he > honestly stated up front he had no solution, which implies he's not sure > of how to go about fixing the problem at hand. >=20 > I viewed his "criticism" as more positive than negative; I took it to > read "this is something we definitely need to look at and resolve, not > just put on the back-burner." I think the number of people who manage > and maintain the USB stack is, as you ptu it, limited. I don't know > what happened to Nick Hibma (the original maintainer/porter of the USB > stack), but it seems things have changed hands. >=20 > Finally, albeit a bit off-topic: financial contributions don't always > make things happen quicker in the open-source world. Although we have > less "managerial" red-tape to deal with, there are still only 24 hours > in a day, and many of us work full-time jobs. Time is limited, > regardless if there's a donation involved or otherwise. :-) >=20 > Just my $0.02. I'd like to throw in my $0.02 as well. Perhaps if we all did, then there would be plenty of money ;-) Mike says: I don't claim that I have a solution - but I think I have an example that really requires for this to be solved in some way other than "you must unmount the USB device before unplugging". I think it would be great to not have to unmount a device before we unplug it, but even Windows requires you to do this by "ejecting" the device first. I don't see this as a problem. I especially do not see this as a problem with the USB stack. I haven't followed the entire thread, but is this the only remaining complaint/issue/criticism/etc? Cheers, Sean --=-sOBdv3bsPZytZB6V3cnJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBWHH3yQsGN30uGE4RAnu6AJ45+m8jNacr79+dclsjntjmbModwACaAtFS v7R+EW1WyRbgIp3u78vc2YA= =jPB2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-sOBdv3bsPZytZB6V3cnJ--