From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 20 13:38:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7B2106564A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.64.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ED58FC08 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0KDcQVB017270; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:38:26 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q0KDcQNm017269; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:38:26 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:38:26 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Damien Fleuriot Message-ID: <20120120133826.GB16676@FreeBSD.org> References: <4F153AE3.9010602@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F153AE3.9010602@my.gd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:38:28 -0000 Damien, On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:09:55AM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: D> I'm having an increasingly difficult time defending FreeBSD in our D> company against the advances of debian kfree which is much easier to D> maintain. D> Can we get back to the 4.x release style and, hopefully, see some 9.7, D> 9.8... ? D> D> Check this PR I opened some months ago: D> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=161123&cat=kern D> D> It was planned for 9.0-RELEASE, there is no mention of 8.x D> That's just the kind of problem John raises here. D> D> I can't keep on defending FreeBSD when the minor fix to a major bug D> isn't backported, and only makes it to the next major version, 4 or 5 D> months from now. Hey, what's the problem here? Fix for kern/161123 has been committed to stable/8! You reminded me, and I promptly did merge, w/o any argument, albeit I have no ability to test it properly on stable/8. I trust you, that you have tested in on stable/8, but if anything breaks, guess who would be blamed: me or you? -- Totus tuus, Glebius.