From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 06:31:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1815816A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 06:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.pccwbtn.com (mx.pccwbtn.com [63.216.0.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8659D43D2F for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 06:31:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbrown@btnaccess.com) Received: from willow.webcoves.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.pccwbtn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i22EVoxp053244; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:31:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mbrown@btnaccess.com) From: Marina Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Johnson David Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:32:56 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20040301210843.64256.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> <200403011329.25897.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> In-Reply-To: <200403011329.25897.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200403020932.56458.> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: my thoughts on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:31:53 -0000 I've taught a number of non-technical people to install the BSD's and som= e=20 linux's. With almost no exeptions they preferred the simpler installs.=20 Slackware installs as well as OpenBSD installs were what they liked best. They did enjoy the Red Hat installs, but they liked the simple installs=20 better. It's easy to want to look like windows, but let's face it. An Operating s= ystem cannot be all things to all people. Marina Brown On Monday 01 March 2004 04:29 pm, Johnson David wrote: > On Monday 01 March 2004 01:08 pm, Scott I. Remick wrote: > > 3) Old cruft. Apparently a lot of people are too scared of the whole > > ncurses/sysinstall beast to dare revamping it. It works, and it's > > tried-and-tested. It's easier and safer to make minor modifications > > to support new versions than to overhaul it. > > > > I wouldn't mind a GUI option, if there were enough people to maintain > > it, but it'd need to only be an option (leaving the current ncurses > > install or some other equivalently-easy text-based install for the > > die-hards). And then you'd have to make sure there were people around > > enough to support 2 separate install scripts (unless a text-based one > > could be automatically generated from the GUI one somehow, using > > templates). > > The sysinstall implementation started out as a quick-n-dirty hack, but > unfortunately it lived on. I've been pondering the solution to this for > a few months now. Frankly I don't see the absolute need for a GUI > installer, but it's certainly a nice thing to have. But a text mode > installer is essential. So the first step is to get a well designed > text mode installer. > > The libh project (sysinstall replacement) is dead. I've have some ideas > on this topic, but it's a bit more than I can do on my own. However, > the only way stuff gets done in FreeBSD is for someone to get an itch > and do it, so I'll probably end up doing something soon. > > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org"