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Date:      Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:04:42 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 2.2.1R NFS and FTP load problem FOUND
Message-ID:  <199704052304.QAA27120@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970405164610.00ac1574@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Apr 5, 97 04:46:15 pm

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> >There is no evidence, short of a shuffle, that will guarantee you
> >that the problem is resolved, not masked by the additional RAM.
> >
> >You will need to do a full shuffle so that an 8M situation without the
> >possibly flakey RAM is also tested (and verified to fail).
> 
> Ok, but why can I load any OTHER version of Freebsd on these machines,

Possibly because it is a bug in FreeBSD, but since you are in
the vast minority, probably because the usage patterns are different
between revisions and you are just "lucky".  8-(.


> and what is the chance of a random ram problem having the exact
> same failure on 2 different machines?

Small, but not non-existant.


> I dont buy it.....sounds like a "mine works so you're wrong"
> answer to me.

Do the shuffle; if it fails in all 8M configurations on your hardware,
you have proven it is a FreeBSD bug.  Right now, all you have is a
strong feeling that it is a FreeBSD bug, and we have a strong feeling
that "a million other users not having the problem can't be wrong".

Circumstantially, our feeling is simpler than yours (Occam's razor)
until you generate contradictory evidence.


					Regards,
					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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