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Date:      Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:13:14 +0200
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <charon@hades.hell.gr>
To:        fuckit <fuckit@subdimension.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: uhhh
Message-ID:  <20000130151314.A12825@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <200001292217.RAA23544@www.subdimension.com>; from fuckit@subdimension.com on Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 05:17:30PM -0500
References:  <200001292217.RAA23544@www.subdimension.com>

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On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 05:17:30PM -0500, fuckit wrote:
>
> ok i know its probably just because im a moron but ive been trying to
> find this fucking freebsd on your ftp site for over an hour...

An hour straight.  My goodness!  And you haven't managed to find
anything in there.  Any kind of nice and understandable link, like that
"Documentation" looking straight back from the first page?

> ive read about 7 readme.txts and i still am not FOR SURE on what i
> need to dl.  i dont want to just copy the whole folder.
> 3.4-release.

You don't need to download much.  [That *is* the meaning of "dl",
right?  Please correct me if I'm wrong, and if it's not that a great
pain for you try writing the words in their entirety.]

If you want to install FreeBSD, you don't have to download much over the
net.  You can buy a CD set from Walnut Creek for $40 and have the entire
release and all the ports in 4 nicely packaged CDs.

On the other hand, if you want to install over the Net, here's what I
did during my last clean installation of FreeBSD -- only this Friday
night, it might help you get started.

I got the two installation disks described in the handbook (by the way, you
can find the handbook at <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/index.html>).  Then
ftp-installed the basic system and had myself running with a fairly recent
snapshot in a tiny bit less than three hours.

The system sources and the ports came later with cvsup, after I read the
relevant section in the handbook, which I installed from FTP during the
system's initial package selection.  "Staying stable with FreeBSD" is
the section of the handbook you are (or, at least, should be) interested
in to make this work for you.

> since im using a dial up and it would take a week.....so what folder
> do i need to copy? or what should i copy to have a full version with
> all the extras.....  thanks

I am behind a 28.8 dialup connection.  What I described above was done
through my dialup account to a Greek ISP.  If mentioning the words
"Greek" and "ISP" is not scary enough, I can back my words up with
traceroutes, and other data.

What this means is that you are not the only one using a dialup
connection to update and/or install a FreeBSD system.  Try it out,
you'll probably find it amusing after a while.

>

Oh, and one last thing.  You don't have to start swearing to get results
from this list.  In fact, if you write in such an inflamatory tone,
you're very likely to end up with a folder burning hot with flames.

A lot of nice and knowledgable people are on this list too.  Please,
respect their kind efforts to help others, and don't use offensive
language.

Ciao.

-- 
Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr >
"Don't let your schooling interfere with your education." [Mark Twain]


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