From owner-freebsd-bugs Thu Jan 10 14:42:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AED37B404 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00782; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:42:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15581; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:42:24 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200201102242.JAA15581@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: gnb@itga.com.au, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/33637: Panic: vm_page_unwire: invalid wire count: 0 In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:57:49 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:42:24 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The submitter of the PR > was operating under a false assumption - that he could run any program and > assume that it was impossible for it to crash the OS. But I don't think that is a false assumtion. On the contrary, that is exactly what I would expect and hope to find from a "production quality" OS like FreeBSD. (In contrast to a GUI-based PC OS, where far too much user code runs with elevated privs. I am not at all surprised when user programs can kill Windows.) IMO the submitter was being entirely reasonable in making that assumption - or at least, on finding a violation of that assumption, to report it and expect it to be treated as a bug. (Even if the response is "we know it's a bug and it's hard to fix, here's a workaround using login.conf".) I guess we can agree to differ here, and I ain't nothing 'cept a user, but my gut feel is that the wider FreeBSD team tends to my way of thinking rather than yours!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message