Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:30:30 -0500 From: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Message-ID: <20200221113030.700642ac@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20200221160938.e35b4ca4.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <CAFYkXjmZi1-MB6W0HsMx9gHek7Xg5heoSKKWkNTnw74dxRTwAw@mail.gmail.com> <ead08f6c-3dc4-210d-b321-549eb0ad721f@malikania.fr> <20200220154101.GA53326@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <CAFYkXjnKO2ayKjh4KKTL1y_rcMbF62CePMcG=Z3KVtptU%2BUGPQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200221010421.GA54290@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <CAFYkXjnJvfBi68Zg6gf8Jr3n4O9C=F3pM8rbHDGKcbmQE2DUMw@mail.gmail.com> <20200221055139.GA969@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <CAFYkXjkJoyh-n%2BXhAi%2B7WLRWgfZRzta9v=vSduqF=DdKABz=cg@mail.gmail.com> <20200221160938.e35b4ca4.freebsd@edvax.de>
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--Sig_/SDnRydXyCKPrauRKjh3OBTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 16:09:38 +0100, Polytropon stated: >On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:14:09 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> This is exactly the reason why I have switched from nVidia to AMD >> RADEON and planning no return!! >>=20 >> Because nVidia does not provide documentation nor support to >> Open-Source, only binary blobs, you start to think that their drivers >> are the best because "they just work"^TM. Nothing more misleading! >>=20 >> nVidia seems to have no respect in the Open-Source community. I was >> also astonished with that being their 20 years long loyal customer. >>=20 >> When you look at the true Open-Source drivers, you will notice they >> are poor and you cannot really do anything more with nVidia than just >> display. =20 > >Exactly my impression. While there are several (I think, 3) >open source nVidia drivers, all of them have problems. Some >just offer 3D graphics, others won't work in 64 bit OS mode, >and others just freeze when being loaded. The binary blob is >the only way to get proper 3D support. > >> Open-Source RADEON drivers in general are by some considered even >> better than binary blobs provided by AMD. =20 > >Interesting. This seems to be a "ride back to the past" where >ATI (which was the typical brand name of the Radeon-type GPUs >at that time) was always superior to nVidia: 3D support out of >the box, with the standard drivers included with X. Then there >was a time where nVidia was considered better than ATI / AMD >(again, judging from the binary blob driver!), and today, AMD >using the open source drivers seems to be the way to go. > >> Here comes the development of DRM layer that is something brand new >> in FreeBSD that will support all new GPU in a truly Open-Source >> fashion (but hey where does that firmware comes from??). =20 > >Don't ask the firmware question. Don't ask _any_ questions >going below the visibility level. ;-) Interestingly enough, nVidia is the only card/driver combination that I have ever gotten good results with. Part of the problem might be that the version of the nVidia driver offered in the ports system is rarely current, For instance, right now the port version is nvidia-driver-440.31_1, while the latest version available for FreeBSD -x64 is version 440.59. The port version was released 11/04/2019. Plus, I wonder how many users actually download and use the utilities for nVidia that are available in the ports system. Also, I would be interested in what 'card' the end used is employing and supposedly not receiving optimal results. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/SDnRydXyCKPrauRKjh3OBTC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl5QBacACgkQOHMGOIfe xWTIAQf8Df8niV2748KGrwT4M5RCg3wTzIk/ld4KdS/0+g+b4by/zpq2bEiVhceB tnpo3B/wNnZ21W4W9hHiY/aFtiS3yDO9O3mgMExuJgZe/daJN710Hzhhx5fd519b OEIpTfvmAf43RNR3szDR8yj8MtyysVyb2y6H6RC9TxEf+a/2zY5koj+qyi07lNTY eFYgPEGrs75HEfBDqgJPqruysIMZ1LMCDFnuRcXv9hrK54iDKm7SDgER1toAo9+Z FvXsVCM0UkEMujI7WsS595LJZ22KYZGvceLlN8qZnQJDdPEk7oHFZ2P8f9Z7sfn1 vz2ArrWgmd/5PFp0oX4Bd3qTn9ekAA== =1YsM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/SDnRydXyCKPrauRKjh3OBTC--
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