From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 16:21:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2494116A423 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: from goodleaf.net (clyde.goodleaf.net [64.95.191.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D19843D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@goodleaf.net) Received: by goodleaf.net (Postfix, from userid 1701) id BB53952F8; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on clyde.goodleaf.net Received: from www.goodleaf.net (localhost.goodleaf.net [127.0.0.1]) by goodleaf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE83F52CE for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from 66.89.131.50 (SquirrelMail authenticated user goodleaf) by www.goodleaf.net with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12613.66.89.131.50.1142353313.squirrel@www.goodleaf.net> In-Reply-To: <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> References: <20060314060732.GA2435@holestein.holy.cow> <20060314160031.8293145041@ptavv.es.net> <20060315031330.0371359f@localhost> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: "John Goodleaf" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: What laptop do you recommend? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:21:47 -0000 Quick top post. Is there a FAQ or page where this sort of info is (or becomes) summarized? J > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800 > "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > >> > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500 >> > From: Parv >> > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> > >> > in message <20060314113412.3470fde5@localhost>, >> > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly... >> > > >> > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300 >> > > freebsd@meijome.net wrote: >> > > >> > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to >> > > > work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.: >> > > > >> > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible) >> > > > PATA / SATA with no problems >> > >> > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet). >> >> From my T43: >> atapci0: port >> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on >> pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA >> chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a >> docking station. > > yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA > drives. > >> > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that >> > you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver. >> > I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver >> > (net/iwi-firmware port). Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless >> > router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about >> > every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt" >> > message. >> >> iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the >> past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two >> colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it >> locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get >> it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also >> fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems. > > I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint > it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before > suspend...) . No problems at all while running. > >> > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips. >> > >> > Can't say about Thinkpad on that. >> >> I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure >> other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, >> but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system! > > I know :) > > What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops ("Turin" ? ) : > any good experiences there anyone? > >> > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so >> > > > >do DELLs >> > > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get >> > > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported. >> > >> > Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain >> > store). > > yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT. > >> >> FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH >> brighter than my trusty T30. >> >> > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? >> > >> > People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be >> > "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the >> > present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron"). >> > >> > >> > > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm. >> > >> > T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00. >> > >> > >> > > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...) >> > >> > Yes, some Dell Inspiron. >> >> My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still >> not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is >> from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, >> though! >> >> For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R >> series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No >> touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the >> T series. > > yeah.... i'm running the features vs numbers job atm... > > Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as > well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great > experiences with those laptops with Linux. > > BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as > needed, of course ;) > > Beto > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >