From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 21 09:25:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04712106566B for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koggybsd@comcast.net) Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A28FC20 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Q9Qv1i0011ap0As599RpsA; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.5] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Q9Rp1i0084uzdYs3i9Rpem; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:49 +0000 From: gore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:25:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <56EE9CA1-8AFF-4FD5-A1DC-D33A3B3B45DC@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <56EE9CA1-8AFF-4FD5-A1DC-D33A3B3B45DC@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201201210425.47781.koggybsd@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Horrible installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:25:50 -0000 On Saturday 21 January 2012 12:52:31 am Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 21 Jan 2012, at 05:47, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1, and.... IMHO, the 9.0 > > installer SUX! It blow chunks. It's a POS. It's crap. It is a > > joke. > > > > I hope I made myself clear. ;-) > > > > - M > > Just because you see things a certain way doesn't make them a fact. > It's your personal opinion and other people's mileage may vary. > > Since you're a fbsd user from 2.x, certainly you're WAY beyond > needing the installer and just unpack the base system + kern + src + > ports and install them manually. Well, because that's work, and anyone who simply says something sucks like that, probably doesn't like doing that lol ;) > Refer my earlier post on the subject. > > Perhaps if you're unhappy with the new installer you should have > submitted feedback about it before -RELEASE hit the road. I too wonder about this. I mean, 9.0 was supposed to be out BEFORE it was actually released, and it was released a little late, so there was actually MORE time to talk about this with someone than what I'm guessing is normal. > Last but not least I find your calling the new installer a "pos" > highly disrespectful towards the people that invested time, energy > and money in it. I agree. Someone saying anything free is a "POS" is kind of like... You know? I bet that's Meg griffin! lol. I'm not the best person for sales because I speak my mind, so I can easily say simply "If you don't like it, you have choices; You can either write a new installer yourself, find another one that works with it, use a different version, a different OS period, or, of course, shut up and like it since you didn't exactly pay through the nose for it". It's totally free, and you can install it on any number of machines. Complaining about free stuff is perfectly fine I think, but at least give examples of how you think it could be better, or, fix it! Note pad comes for free on Windows, and it blows like Windows does, but I'm not a programmer so even if you COULD get the source, I couldn't fix it. But, I don't sit there telling Microsoft's terrible tech supportpeople who failed at sellingused cars that it sucks... If I wanted to try that out I'd tell Richard Stallman where he could stick Emacs and every bit of the source code lol..Anyone who thinks ITS is better than Unix..... Yea... Right... An OS entirely in Assembler, 6 characters no exceptions no passwords and "hey I have a Hack! use Enter for your password!".... Luckly ITS was crappy enough no one in their right mind would WANT to break in to steal CPU cycles lol. That's like breaking into a VMS machine; I'd rather dip my balls in honey and tea bag a jar full of Bullet Ants. (And if you didn't laugh enough at that; look up Bullet Ants; They have one of the most painful stings of anything, and, as such, you aren't considered a man by most tribes until you stick your hands in a special glove set with them in there) lol :) -Allen -- BSD user