From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 20 17:10:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AEC16A4CE; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D791343D4C; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:10:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9KH9FME002504; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:09:33 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9KH97Cb001274; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:09:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9KH97vX001273; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:09:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:09:07 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20041020170907.GA1216@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <41767CF1.2020005@FreeBSD.org> <20041020154545.GA15763@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041020.105839.100358845.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041020.105839.100358845.imp@bsdimp.com> cc: sobomax@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel ?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:10:01 -0000 On 2004-10-20 10:58, "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > In message: <20041020154545.GA15763@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > : That's not just cheap. It's dirt cheap, if you ask me. Bearing > : this in mind, saving a little space in /boot/kernel is hardly worth > : the effort and the trouble one has to go through in order to locate > : or compile a debugging kernel when a bug creeps up. > > But the time it takes me to resize / to accomidate the larger > requirements of the kernel will easily swamp the cost of the disk. It > usually takes me about 3 hours to do the conversion if all goes well, > 10 or more if something bad happens during it. This can easily add up > to hundreds or thousands of dollars depending on who has to sit around > waiting. True. This is why making this tunable at installworld time is absolutely necessary.