From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 19 09:03:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C3106566B; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E64A8FC16; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so2346422iwn.13 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:03:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=opkZ0jB17SPtmPWwQMBp4daR5R7aSi6mtXgStOQF17Y=; b=qIRb1F9lpct1IuxFK8WHIG0/k/b24YHyDbGXWi53Knnke+vTE8t7gR3baFedrRQOjv gVE77ICkqMQDxFyVJPCBa8jqTm1vJna7+eeduJLNC4TVAKBvwrA/3jKO3xkeKs9n7+EW sx7XKH/rJeASU7vMH9rmics9iMtEvtkMoMkY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=F8YaPP8BlVy/jCfGl7NNpIa39J4xsnhaaP5WyUnfEJ6EgMJ5OEPZs2TrYhZvINZ5Jl LJJ1gV/NQPWzJ/Yqepmv2eltgPyaEcxx3UDkdBtz6mu+Phg+/ZLvMZcCPpWxvKh0w10k j/zUdTy+LnQ1vOWdZSXv7JUJzJFlxL3pOides= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.149.145 with SMTP id t17mr2510723ibv.25.1276936536017; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yanegomi@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.117.201 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:35:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1276867027.1995.34.camel@nsl> References: <20100617.143334.584432776655157077.imp@bsdimp.com> <201006172335.21969.max@love2party.net> <4C1AAD6C.8070705@freebsd.org> <1276867027.1995.34.camel@nsl> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:35:35 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YBuI8wC047kGQuQ7La_1EI9NE9Q Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Kevin Lo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to stop stripping binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:03:12 -0000 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Kevin Lo wrote: > Tim Kientzle wrote: >> Max Laier wrote: >> > On Thursday 17 June 2010 22:33:34 M. Warner Losh wrote: >> >> >> >> Now that disks are big, can we stop stripping binaries by default? >> >> >> >> I've worked up a patch that lets you set WITH_BINARY_SYMBOLS or >> >> WITHOUT_BINARY_SYMBOLS as you see fit. =A0We should commit it regardl= ess >> >> of the outcome of this discussion (well, defaulting to yes or no >> >> depending on the outcome). >> > >> > My vote is with symbols in current and stable, without in releases - b= y >> > default. =A0i.e. everything people build at home from an unknown repo = state >> > should have symbols, everything we "ship" can be reproduced if needed. >> >> I was going to make this suggestion myself, but Max beat me to it. =A0 ;= -) >> >> Definitely -CURRENT should default to building with >> symbols. =A0I've spent too much time going back to >> re-build specific pieces with symbols in order >> to debug issues in -CURRENT. >> >> For releases, I think there's a good argument to >> leaving symbols off (CD space is still rather dear). >> >> For stable, I could go either way. > > +1. Agreed with Tim :-) I agree as well, but I think it should be on for stable because of all of the bits being MFCed on a regular basis nowadays from CURRENT, and the potential issues that might arise due to less tested components (for bug triage purposes). Thanks! -Garrett