From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 5 15:24:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0B51065673; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu@dudu.ro) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372778FC1A; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxh10 with SMTP id 10so2780055vxh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.108 with SMTP id d12mr2443572vdu.180.1312557857249; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:24:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.184.2 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:23:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E3C0651.9070307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20110805002732.GA5340@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> <201108051628.19884.pieter@degoeje.nl> <20110805145626.GB13217@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> <4E3C0651.9070307@FreeBSD.org> From: Vlad Galu Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:23:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andriy Gapon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Luigi Rizzo Subject: Re: High Network Perfomance X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:24:18 -0000 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 05/08/2011 17:56 Luigi Rizzo said the following: >> i asked permission to re@ to integrate it in 9.0 but it was considered >> a bit premature. >> However i am not too worried because the system dependencies are >> minimal and it changes no API/ABI or internal data structure so >> it is easy to add it at a later time. > > /rant > > I think that having real, useful in practice applications that make use of the > netmap would definitely speed up its adoption. > > Maybe I am too pessimistic here, but I don't foresee too many users of netmap as > long as it remains just a mechanism that potentially can greatly speed up things > if you manage to write your own applications that do those things via netmap. > Full TCP/IP stack with sockets API on top of it and lots of available applications > on top of that is one thing, an interface to a network card is a totally different > thing on a scale of usability (especially the by the end-users). Netmap's scope may be narrow, but it's a great alternative to proprietary implementations that are provided by only a handful of vendors and tied to their hardware. I don't think Luigi foresees lots of users either, but having it in the base system is a lot better than not having it at all, IMHO. > > -- > Andriy Gapon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Good, fast & cheap. Pick any two.