From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 09:37:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EA216A4B3 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C442743FF9 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 22-15.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.22.15] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1A1q9t-0007PW-00; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:37:01 -0700 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Tadimeti Keshav , Kris Kennaway Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:31:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200309231123.49952.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200309231123.49952.algould@datawok.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309231131.47721.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4ba7a5293f36c0c23224a5375a882ab4cd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports on a CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:37:06 -0000 On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:23 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:04 am, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On > > Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:59:30AM +0100, Tadimeti > > > > > Keshav wrote: > > > > Guys, > > > > Is it possible to get all of the ports on a CD > > > > > > set? > > > > > > > This is one area where Linux fares better. Debian > > > > offers a 7 CD (OK they don'y make ISOs) set that > > > > contains all packages. > > > > > > What are you really asking here? First you ask for > > > ports (but the > > > ports collection is on CD1), then you say debian > > > includes packages on > > > their CDs (so does FreeBSD). > > > > Well, remember that the ports collection is nothing > > but the skeleton that can connect to the internet and > > fetch the source files that you can compile. What I > > was asking for is the facility to have all the sources > > of all the ports on the CD. (SO you needn't connect to > > the internet to build your machine). > > > > > > I think the FreeBSD distribution would be better > > > > > > off > > > > > > > having all ports on the 2 additional CDs rather > > > > > > than > > > > > > > have packages. > > > > > > Now you say "ports rather than packages", when both > > > are shipped. > > > > > > Can you please clarify what you are asking? > > > > > > Kris > > > > Debian ships all DEB packages on the CDs. FreeBSD only > > bundles some packages. For example, JDK is a port > > while vim is a package. Would it not be better to cut > > down on several packages of large size and ship the CD > > with the sources needed to compile JDK etc. Hope U get > > the point. > > 1. JDK was not available as a package due to licensing restrictions. > License restrictions also require end users to download the source directly > from Sun. I **think** JDK 1.3 is now available as a package (having met > certain licensing restrictions); but if you want to compile from source, > you still need to download the source directly from Sun. I'll correct myself here. JDK/JRE 1.3* packages aren't available on the FreeBSD website. JDK/JRE 1.3.1 packages are available at: http://www.FreeBSDFoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml See the announcement at: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20030825-java131.shtml > > 2. FreeBSD packages are available on CD's and DVD's from a couple of > sources: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm > http://www.unixdvd.com/ > http://www.freebsd-services.com/ > > A longer list of FreeBSD vendors can be found at: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html > > 3. Everything mentioned in #2 above can be found **easily** via the > "Getting FreeBSD" link on the home page of the FreeBSD website. > > Best of luck, > > Andrew Gould