From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Apr 17 16:59:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6AB1540D for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA62059; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:55:25 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Terry Lambert Cc: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, marcus@miami.edu, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redhat Certified Engineer Message-ID: <19990417165525.A61941@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: <19990416203918.A53178@ontario.mooseriver.com> <199904172256.PAA22436@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199904172256.PAA22436@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 10:56:45PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 10:56:45PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 08:43:22PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but it seems Redhat is offering > > > > certification much like Cisco or Microsoft. I think a FreeBSD Ceritifed > > > > Engineer would be a great thing to tag to my signature. Any plan for > > > > this? Need any help putting something together? Is this even a good > > > > idea? > > > > > > This is old news, but worth repeating if people are not aware > > > of what's going on: > > > > > > They have already processed 1000 students through this program > > > at US$2500 a student, and made US$2.5M in the process. > > > > > > Minus, of course, their costs such as equipment, teachers, administration, > > etc. Yes, they made money but not 2.5x10**6 dollars. > > The point is, they made a profit, and there is opportunity there, > if advocating FreeBSD isn't enough to get you interested in doing > this type of thing, then maybe the money will be. You know me, Terry. You, and any one else who knows me, know this I am always sniffing around for money. Collecting a check is my favorite thing to do after advocating FreeBSD. I just wanted to inject a little reality into this discussion. Having FreeBSD certified Engineers is a good idea. It will make the suits feel better about FreeBSD and allow FreeBSD-Support to weed out the bozos from the competent. But this is not an easy task. Developing a course of study, standardized testing, recruiting teachers, etc. is a lot of work. If you think getting people to write documentation is tough try getting people to write course work and teach the classes. My $0.02 Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message