From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 18 07:40:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FDB16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:40:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-1.dlr.de (smtp-1.dlr.de [195.37.61.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D4E43D3F for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from beagle.kn.op.dlr.de ([129.247.173.6]) by smtp-1.dlr.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:40:32 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:40:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt X-X-Sender: brandt_h@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20050416150810.GD5452@empiric.icir.org> Message-ID: <20050418093938.I1882@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> References: <20050415173711.I658@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20050416150810.GD5452@empiric.icir.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2005 07:40:32.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6B13020:01C543E9] cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: De-orbitting ATM-HARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harti Brandt List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:40:34 -0000 On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Bruce M Simpson wrote: BMS>On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 05:41:57PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: BMS>> While there I would also remove everything from netnatm that is not needed BMS>> by NgATM. This is mainly the socket interface. I'm not aware of any BMS>> application that uses it. Any thoughts on this? BMS> BMS>Oh. Don't remove that. Userland PPP needs it. People who are using ADSL BMS>modems of any kind will still need it. Does it really use socket(AF_ATM, ... or socket(AF_NATM, ...? Any chance to convert this to netgraph sockets? harti