From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 27 23:58:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA12509 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA12489; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id XAA20941; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199709280656.XAA20941@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: 'fxp' driver/hardware lossage (was Re: Alexander B. Povol's mail) In-Reply-To: <199709272228.PAA14163@usr08.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Sep 27, 97 10:28:24 pm" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, tlambert@primenet.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > If you want something that really tries to ``prevent'' this you want > > a switch and not a hub, and you want full-duplex non-simplex NIC cards > > in every box connected to that switch, and no I'm not just talking > > about 100Base stuff here, it applies to both 10 and 100Base ethernet > > over TP. > > While you are in the process emptying your wallet into a fire, you > may want to consider buying good cards instead, and avoiding the > problem altogether... Ah, Terry, do you realize who you quoted above? Please reread what I wrote, I don't think you can find a NIC that meets my spec without getting a ``good one''. I was also ``preventing'' the collisions, something some major corps have paid me good money to go in and do. How about a 50 node HP7000/J200 cluster using Catalyst 5000 switches. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD