From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 9 14:47:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8A816A4CE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F02743FCB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from victorvittorivonwiktow@interfree.it) Received: from workstation (212.171.174.214) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F8C844B00DDF636 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:47:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c3a713$776daf00$d6aeabd4@workstation> From: ".VWV." To: References: <000a01c3a59e$429ce460$7baeabd4@workstation><20031108113432.35b59671.kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com><3FAD2AA1.5060500@potentialtech.com><000701c3a6d9$5aafca90$9bfc2dd5@workstation> <20031109135848.3eebea37.kitlists@hotpop.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:47:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: Re: the unix desktop was possible once X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:47:31 -0000 Vulpes Velox wrote: > Why not use 4.9 or 4stable? I see no problem using gtk or gtk+. As > long as qt is advioded I don't see any real problems. Free hosting is > largely a must... look how much various linuxs have managed to > totally bungle the idea of creating a desktop by being commercial. I have already explained, for a desktop it is necessary a common look for the various environments. It can be obtained following the GNUstep standard, adopted by Windowmaker. GTK 1.x has the graphical engines to match exactly the same look. It is only necessary to find the way to start that bastard of Nautilus 1.0.6, which should be docked as for desktop and main file manager. As for KDE 3.x, I'll try to hack it to add on the old 'kdestep' style, even if I have no idea if I'll be able of mixing the sources in the correct way. > Installation tools are cool. Some nicer config tools would go a long > way thought. I am currently working on one to make kernel builds > simpler. This is an optional, as for desktops, because simply reading the Handbook and the LINT file, the compilation goes perfectly at the first attempt. In any case, it would be nice to have such tool as a part of a customized 'sysinstall'. VITTORI