From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 3 16:28:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C58416A4CE; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:28:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172C043D55; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:28:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rizzo@icir.org) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iA3GS6od049336; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id iA3GS6be049335; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:28:06 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20041103082806.C49241@xorpc.icir.org> References: <200411031411.iA3EBIqL012134@repoman.freebsd.org> <418905E5.1050605@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <418905E5.1050605@freebsd.org>; from scottl@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 09:23:01AM -0700 cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/em if_em.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:28:07 -0000 On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 09:23:01AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: ... > I think that in general we can start eyeing a lot of similar verbosity > in all of our drivers, both at boot and at runtime. For example most > nic drivers print out their MAC and all of their possible negotiation > rates on attach. This same info can be obtained from ifconfig. Why > clutter the boot with it? because sometimes you might need to enable some MAC-based filter before you have a chance to access the box. e.g. to set dhcp/bootp anbd the like. A bit of verbosity is useful, you can always switch to splash screens if you don't like them. I think the link-up/link-down thing is different because it happens not just at boot but also whenever the link status changes (e.g. when a spanning tree on a switch detects a reconfiguration), and this is annoying on the console. cheers luigi