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Date:      Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:09:18 -0500 (EST)
From:      mike@seidata.com
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SSH vsprintf patch. (You've been warned Mr. Glass)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811020901240.7807-100000@ns1.seidata.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.02.9811020233260.17054-100000@sasami.jurai.net>

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On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

> > Let me ask you this. Would you trust a packet that came from
> > non-priviledged port and which wants to do something that even
> > remotely should be secure?
[snip]
> The concept of 'secure port' is somewhat dated in this age of NT and Linux
> lusers.
[snip]

Question:

How did a discussion that was meant to logically determine the
(un)importance of potential ssh vulnerabilities degrade into a
childish "Linux is for lusers" (I guess I should respect the opinion
of one who can't spell) argument which is currently doing little more
than stating what we all (at least should) already know?

While this thread grows, consumes more and more bandwidth, and gets
more off-topic, who's actually working on this problem and attempting
to resolve it?  JKH's posts are the only one's I've seen that are
level headed - let's not go off on tangents and make speculations that
in no way help our cause.  There's work to be done.

My (and hopefully the list's) repsect to the individual(s) who
actually comes up with proof-of-concept exploit code (to either prove
or disprove ssh claims).

Sorry if this is a little terse - but I don't see how having a
mailbox full of "Did you hear this?  and this...  and this..." type
messages is going to help our situation.  Let's fix it or shutup.

Later,

	-mike


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