From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 10:58:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A6916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:58:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.mx.aegisnet.de (a.mx.aegisnet.de [213.238.36.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC30243D31 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:58:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cz@aegisnet.biz) Received: (qmail 82266 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2005 10:58:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO galadriel.bbk.hh.aegisnet.de) ([80.171.4.75]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Feb 2005 10:58:37 -0000 Received: from galadriel.bbk.hh.aegisnet.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j1DAwEPn000877 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:58:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cz@aegisnet.biz) Received: (from czimmer@localhost)j1DAwEp5000876 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:58:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cz@aegisnet.biz) Resent-Message-Id: <200502131058.j1DAwEp5000876@galadriel.bbk.hh.aegisnet.de> X-Authentication-Warning: galadriel.bbk.hh.aegisnet.de: czimmer set sender to cz@aegisnet.biz using -f Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:55:37 +0100 From: Carsten Zimmermann To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050213105537.GB743@galadriel.bbk.hh.aegisnet.de> References: <8c411210ef532a4d2d5fd69636632809@czv.com> <420E62DB.5050006@401.cx> <0892bf6a3cf2d8092e296157bbcb6148@czv.com> <420E7141.4020701@401.cx> <20050212212117.GA38925@fw.farid-hajji.net> <420E7A83.2070407@401.cx> <20050212222446.GA39237@fw.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050212222446.GA39237@fw.farid-hajji.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Resent-From: cz@aegisnet.biz Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:58:07 +0100 Resent-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: cpghost@cordula.ws Subject: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:58:16 -0000 (just a minor side note) > There's a lot of discussion going on about secondary stuff > like logos and so, while a lot of things needs to be fixed > in RELENG_5 (or CURRENT). But please read on. > After all, FreeBSD has always been a technical project and > one if its greatest strengths has been to stay away from > corporatism und marketroids. Things are really going down > the drain if we start to have discussions like these. > cpghost, after all, this is advocacy@ and not everyone is a programmer. I'd put it the other way round: let's keep the programmers do the *real* work (=enhance out beloved OS) and let *us* keep their mind from any such things we are discussing right here. I have to agree with Roger, totally - I don't see an impact on FreeBSD's quality if we choose to open ourselves to see to it more professionally (or at least _offer_ such a point of view for those seeking it). - Carsten -- Carsten Zimmermann mailto:cz@aegisnet.biz Aegis:Net IT-Dienstleistungen http://www.aegisnet.biz