From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 30 19:14: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317D714CF5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA25099; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:43:53 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:43:53 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System crash on "vinum start" Message-ID: <19991001114353.J496@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990925104024.B54407@freebie.lemis.com> <199909271705.NAA43302@concours.pc.sas.com> <3.0.3.32.19990927153730.0204c420@207.227.119.2> <19990928084130.L46202@freebie.lemis.com> <99Sep28.125643est.40332@border.alcanet.com.au> <3.0.3.32.19990930182053.0219b760@207.227.119.2> <99Oct1.094141est.40344@border.alcanet.com.au> <3.0.3.32.19990930193723.00936df0@207.227.119.2> <19991001105734.F496@freebie.lemis.com> <3.0.3.32.19990930205439.021a58c0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990930205439.021a58c0@207.227.119.2>; from Jeffrey J. Mountin on Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 08:54:39PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 30 September 1999 at 20:54:39 -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 10:57 AM 10/1/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >> You're not typical. But you *can* grow concatenated plexes. You just >> can't expand UFS to use the space. That's not a Vinum issue, but >> somebody's working on it. > > Yes, I realized that and donned a pointy hat. > > Root (/) and OS specific files are of interest, but not as critical to me. > There are other allowance one can make for redundancy. Beyond the scope of > this discussion. > >> That's a good idea, I suppose. I'll do that. Done: >> http://www.lemis.com/vinum/wishlist.html. > > Excellent! > > As for the root issue, #3 looks the most feasible, IMHO, and should > eliminate the problems of #2 if the kernel's fs dies (unless it could try > another drive) and yet would there not be an issue should the drive that > does the bootstrapping die and the system rebooted. Once we've loaded the kernel, we don't need it again. You can delete the kernel on a running system without any problem. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message