From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 11 15:18:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10123 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10118 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.20]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00755; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08218; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: Terry Lambert , Martin Loeffler , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: forcing a modem to hangup In-Reply-To: <31E52A8A.24F8@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > > Failure modes: > > > > 1) Internal modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > > > > Thats a matter of opinion Terry. > I feel: > External modems. Don't buy them, you can't trust them. > Or the hardware they require. Gary, those of us that know how to use breakout boxes, and have dealt with serial commercially, usually react violently against internal modems, just because they eliminate two of the most commonly used troubleshooting tools (front panel lights and breakout boxes). If you don't know how to use them, or aren't used to these tools, I guess you might be less than understanding about the attitude, but there's a good reason behind it. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with technical experience in maintaining comm lines that would disagree. There's a difference between trusting troubleshooting software, and seeing results with your eyes. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------