From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sat Jan 5 23:52:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D655D142919A; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa42.google.com (mail-vk1-xa42.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 618C674545; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 23:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa42.google.com with SMTP id v70so8694460vkv.7; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:52:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gtYTxdfFMg8mlpK3qNI/ZMLNqgOW3jT719ZOw8wNqMw=; b=Mo3zw2W/4VhPur95Ol8CMjmI9TTgPGyzmPZzc0Lul2uy6VLT5iOM5Oh2Or0lpELu8s EV6+W3RHr3hZdfBNQ94eQZsDWQPpQp1vGkwUyJHmFfOGxCjZoXu2SEws04o6fzOez5sB 5PhEB2bBOPyjT45C09iGS1V4ZHr2Lu1ADQNi5tSAXXgQCX0/ET+6a8QwGlQiuFUQITtE bwlMfxmxfL/FDZXD+wSuzdKEpaudOtUMrQTfjgj1g0EyRXbzmGg/XkK3shhDgq7wPnc4 ljD65kVLw8qnNojeO2zyvZA1+S8gyZcwdIFuLAisUHDDXoGcV7JE0lAzB8AHNqvtilUe 65qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gtYTxdfFMg8mlpK3qNI/ZMLNqgOW3jT719ZOw8wNqMw=; b=qMgYx/PCRNCE3m+hDacSClVzeWEfX31Srs6FV+f9HvwArXmvT8cSdSzDH+JJyrtm7x zV5VNyusdND9b3dqIdHeYnjNkx3fae4r9yV2BwNknlGFJnJZt/S/lyzuac3yLoZx3ZwG SdNvtY5HZREn7x5yJwA+LWPXH6DvvZ43q31LJxouvmEmGgzrhtPTEKAWTYH/HLSr87zk a52MBLRjfzOirrZwdj45TYk6zr0yWHPeRf7Ht/mIRzIsNil3VVk4mxNYN8DKn7E/vv7a WkNb2WkwaH/L18DzBulziJ2rq2v7HBe4g2xu+BPouq4GDYqL90yTTVQlEUT2hqS58Nk7 rBug== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfCh8KgO+zsPQi35x8EqpKj4ujPsyfMY7+nYXopI2BtpsBQ+/EC /jNLLjvl6pgc/KNTJ56utuVBU4jHspE9C9mFsoEhPh8V X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7dnCoDKS17+0sEAfsCzVw5+d5qiuiXcQh/KbMADFFERR+0vWMVwUSJ3opbCd/r9QnctHpA/BFReJZ7FpkT64g= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:a8c5:: with SMTP id r188mr20456419vke.44.1546732361559; Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:52:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1546641152.2475.1@smtp.migadu.com> <1546642600.2475.2@smtp.migadu.com> <20190105003925.6862d526.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190106004001.2712d2c3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190106004001.2712d2c3.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 00:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Synaptics on Panasonic Touchbook CF-C2 To: Polytropon Cc: Greg V , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 618C674545 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Mo3zw2W/; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.22)[0.219,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.49)[ip: (1.47), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.08)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[tomek@cedro.info,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 23:52:44 -0000 On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:40 AM Polytropon wrote: > Correct. It is only needed for getting the mouse work in the > console. With vt having replaced sc as the console driver, > the console functionality has seen several facettes of decay, > which is sad, but seems to be required to keep X happy. The reason I still want moused is that I often work in a simple shell with no X and there mouse comes really handy to copy-paste some stuff.. I usually startX by hand when I need it :-) > Still there is one thing I seem to remember from the thread: > At some point, you said that you've obtained debugging data > from the psm driver directly (not via "moused -d"), and with > the hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" setting in /boot/loader.conf, > you did not get any reaction from that channel. This is strange. > Even though X input does not need moused support, is surely > needs psm support (via the "sysmouse" hook). I'm not sure > this looks entirely correct - but I don't have (and don't like > to use) touchpads, so I cannot provide any further ideas. > It's just my gut feeling, resulting in memories of low-level > programming done decades ago, that you should at least get > _some_ kind of reaction from the psm driver whenever an event > happens on the touchpad. Yes exactly this is why I am asking here, because I think there is something wrong with PSM or my TouchPad! On different devices / computers / trackpads everything works fine with a simple psm+moused configuration - I have two finger scroll reported by a device, passed as additional data by psm to moused thanks to hw.psm.synaptics_enable="1".. even with USB attached devices.. > Make sure you have xf86-input-synaptics and libsynaptics installed. > X should then detect the corresponding device automatically and > load the appropriate drivers and subsystems. This also does not work - cursor does not move.. and the driver cannot detect synaptics device correctly.. > > The worst thing is that one time it was working correctly.. no clue why ;-) > Maybe it was on an older FreeBSD version? Decay... ;-) Eventually we will figure that out and make a fix :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info