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Date:      Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:10:54 +0200
From:      Tilman Linneweh <tilman@arved.de>
To:        Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org>
Cc:        www@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: release usage statistics...
Message-ID:  <20030622191054.GA42499@huckfinn.arved.de>
In-Reply-To: <20030622205952.A463@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>
References:  <7672.1056098529@critter.freebsd.dk> <20030622205952.A463@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>

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* Wolfram Schneider [So, 22 Jun 2003 at 21:02 GMT]:
>>=20
>> I find it hard to belive that 5.x is not used...
>>=20
>> for instance:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/statistic/release_usage/2003/2003-06-18
>=20
> the release usage statistic use the data from the
> www.freebsd.org log file (field User Agent).
>=20
> There are some problems with this basic approach:
>=20
> 1) browsers with a faked user agent, e.g. Opera
> 2) browsers in linux emulation send Linux as OS, e.g.
>    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386)
> 3) since some month Mozilla no nonger send the Version of FreeBSD,
>    only the OS and the hardware platform: "FreeBSD i386"
>=20
> Point 3) is the biggest problem, because most users use Mozilla and
> fewer and fewer people use Netscape 4.x ... The release statistic is now=
=20
> useless - it is a statistic about die hard Netscape 4.x users=20
> running old FreeBSD releases.
>

127.0.0.1 - - [22/Jun/2003:21:05:37 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 307 "-" "Mo=
zilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; FreeBSD 5.1-BETA; X11; i386; de, de_D=
E, de_DE.ISO8859-15)"

All 5.x users should start using Konqueror :-)

(At least for browing FreeBSD.org)

scnr
tilman =20



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