From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:13:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C2437B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.goamerica.net (ny-mx-01.goamerica.net [208.200.67.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8711143FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eaja@erols.com) Received: from localhost (165.sub-166-141-30.myvzw.com [166.141.30.165]) by smtp.goamerica.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h5GJCXNf011582 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:10:24 -0400 From: Eric Jacobs To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030616151024.0616e1e4.eaja@erols.com> In-Reply-To: <200306162015.06836.nakal@web.de> References: <200306162015.06836.nakal@web.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Drawing graphics on terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:13:14 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:15:06 +0200 Nakal wrote: > Hi, > > recently, I found vidcontrol and played a bit with it. I have been > looking for documents about how to output pixels (graphics) on the > terminal. See /usr/share/examples/libvgl > I could not find any. Before I give up, I want to ask here, > if it is possible to do that. What I want to do is to port my > applications from Linux-framebuffer to FreeBSD, but I am also thinking > about making a graphical installer for FreeBSD (eye-candy is always > nice to attract new users). I've been thinking about that too. The big question I have is whether it's a good idea to use a toolkit with a more restrictive license (GPL, LGPL, MPL), which would make it a lot easier, or come up with something that could be licensed under the BSD license. I know that FreeBSD has used the GPL'd libdialog in sysinstall for quite some time without problems, but maybe it is time to start thinking about something that is free in the BSD license sense. I don't think the advantage of a GUI-based installer would be "eye-candy". libdialog looks fine IMO. It would be to increase the ease of use, allow more flexibility in installations, and add more troubleshooting/diagnostic options (disabling/enabling/loading device drivers, etc.)