From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 4 02:04:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14810 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 02:04:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-60-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14789 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 02:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA01606; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:58:55 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199812040958.LAA01606@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: /boot/loader what to set rootdev to? In-Reply-To: <199812040016.QAA01175@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 3, 98 04:16:42 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:58:53 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > Because you may have the FreeBSD install on the DOS partition, ie. not > > > having a partition of its own. So you can't guarantee that you can > > > activate a different partition and boot from it. > > > > OK, if this translates to "demo", then we're talking marketing- > > driven solutions, and completely different rules apply. > > Uh, no, not at all. There are situations where to get FreeBSD into an > environment, we'll have to be able to operate like this. Whether we do > it with a "UMSDOS" style approach, or with a monolithic 'filesystem > file', it'd be worthwhile. > > > Sample choices: > > > > o Get vm86 working reliably with a virus or two swirling > > around, and a couple of TSRs trying to pop up. > > See the new fbsdboot sample I sent you; it'd be useful to know how > vulnerable this might be to that. I think the new fbsdboot sample you sent me has a good chance of totally confusing viruses and TSRs. :) > TBH, I can't see any problem with > saying "if you have a viral infection, we can't help you". Well, that's the "yuk" approach; we could also take the "yum" approach: RELEASE NOTES FreeBSD Release 3.x-RELEASE 1.1. KERNEL CHANGES ------------------- o Certain DOS viruses are now supported. In some cases, this support includes the corruption of UFS and other non-DOS partitions. However complete system devastation cannot always be reliably guaranteed, as results may be affected by incomplete emulation of the DOS environment.) > > > o Use a boot floppy. > > Ick. We have to be able to do better than that. 8) I'm pretty sure there are better solutions. If this isn't a demo, I just don't have a very clear idea what we're aiming at, only what to avoid. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message