From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 5 08:09:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A050316A422 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8143D46 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:08:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1EN4Kf0CzI-0007HJ; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:08:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:27:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: K Anderson In-Reply-To: <001f01c5c980$a3030c50$0c64a8c0@opteron> Message-ID: <20051005101940.B1341@www.pukruppa.net> References: <000301c5c97c$5b735560$0c64a8c0@opteron> <2926BCC8-0AF2-483E-BDB1-CF2E30EC4558@shire.net> <001f01c5c980$a3030c50$0c64a8c0@opteron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Stored hard drive failure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 08:09:02 -0000 On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, K Anderson wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > To: "K Anderson" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:20 AM > Subject: Re: Stored hard drive failure? > > >> >> On Oct 5, 2005, at 1:13 AM, K Anderson wrote: >> >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> I thought a saw a thread on something like this but I can't seem to find >>> it >>> so I figure I might as well ask and see what turns up. >>> >>> The scenario: >>> I use a hard drive to mirror my main hard drive. I then pull the >>> alternate >>> hard drive off the system and store it for later use should the primary >>> drive fail, or the system as a whole fails. >>> >>> How long can the hard drive sit on the shelf before some sort of natural >>> cause that prevents it from spinning up properly? Two weeks ago I found an old hd on my shelf, which still booted 4.7 -RELEASE properly. But I wonder if some kind of RAID 1 solution wouldn't be more suitable for your situation: you use two hd's anyway and they would be kept in sync automatically. Regards, Uli. >> >> How long are you storing them for? I would think that the data on the >> disk would quickly become out of date and stale before any physical >> issues would arise. > Thanks for your response, > > Not sure how long I'm storing them (See above question where I asked -- How > long can the HD sit on the shelf... and the other questions seemed to be > editted out). But you're right the info could become out-of-date unless when > I did patch management then I would pull the stored HD off the shelf and > hope that it didn't fail because of non-use and re-mirror the main drive > then stored the secondary back on the shelf. But then that really doens't > hit the other two questions that were editted out. > > Perhaps if somebody had experience with doing the very scenario I thought > of. I know HDs can be touchy but how touchy can they get if they are just > sitting on the shelf waiting for resuse and me going, darn that HD is bad > now that it sat on the shelf for X number of [days|weeks|months|years]. > > ~Mr. Anderson > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * *********************************************