From owner-cvs-all Tue Apr 9 14: 0:22 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787F137B404; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g39L08i98834; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:00:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g39L07c31641; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:00:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020409.150003.121190777.imp@village.org> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys ioccom.h From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20020409131837.D35868@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020409.144636.59877321.imp@village.org> <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:36PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > The problem was tracked down. The config programs are doing bogus : : I did not understand your earlier message on 1st read. I've read it : again and now understand what you were saying. : : Thanks for the detective work. That will help a lot to getting the : author's of the various pieces of software to change their code. Yes, but it doesn't help that there appear to be at least three different ways that this is done (maybe 4) and one of them is now in autoconf. The vim/screen way is easy enough to fix, since those are the only programs that do that, but hylafax does it one way, and autoconf does it another. Getting autoconf fixed may be hard or easy (I don't know for sure how hard it is to get the fix into the distribution, since I've not dealt with them). This makes me uneasy and seems a high price to pay just to have X11 compile. It was a good idea, but one which I don't think is in line with common practice to justify the pain to our users. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message