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Date:      Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>
To:        obrien@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys ioccom.h
Message-ID:  <20020409.150003.121190777.imp@village.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com>
References:  <20020409131837.D35868@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020409.144636.59877321.imp@village.org> <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com>

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In message: <20020409135311.C36893@dragon.nuxi.com>
            "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:46:36PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > The problem was tracked down.  The config programs are doing bogus
: 
: I did not understand your earlier message on 1st read.  I've read it
: again and now understand what you were saying.
: 
: Thanks for the detective work.  That will help a lot to getting the
: author's of the various pieces of software to change their code.

Yes, but it doesn't help that there appear to be at least three
different ways that this is done (maybe 4) and one of them is now in
autoconf.  The vim/screen way is easy enough to fix, since those are
the only programs that do that, but hylafax does it one way, and
autoconf does it another.  Getting autoconf fixed may be hard or easy
(I don't know for sure how hard it is to get the fix into the
distribution, since I've not dealt with them).

This makes me uneasy and seems a high price to pay just to have X11
compile.  It was a good idea, but one which I don't think is in line
with common practice to justify the pain to our users.

Warner

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