Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 14:41:41 -0700 From: Nate Williams <nate@trout.sri.MT.net> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@freefall.cdrom.com>, hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: httpd as part of the system. Message-ID: <199503242141.OAA25646@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@freefall.cdrom.com> "httpd as part of the system." (Mar 24, 12:44pm)
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> I *know* that these are both ports, I'm simply proposing that we raise > the status of both to "standard component" status. > > I also know that the bloatists will scream, but all I can offer in way > of defense is to say that this is a pretty inevitable part of the > software vs advancing customer expectations part of the field and you > all might as well get used to it. IFF we can get the all singing , all dancing installation software to break the system into more manageable chunks which are not necessary then I say go for. However, MANY (most) folks which run FreeBSD are not direct Internet connected, so these kinds of files are wasting space. We can always cater to the folks who *want* the stuff right now with packages. However, we can't make the distribution smaller if we add it to the 'standard' tree w/out a way to NOT install it. > We're hardly the only folks adding > features daily, and if anything we've been pretty restrained in > comparison to Microsoft, IBM and Novell! They don't make iyou install everything AND the kitchen sink unless you wnat it though. We force you to install the whole shebang w/no regards to whether or not it will fit on your machine. I would venture to guess that the standard machine being used today by the majority of FreeBSD users is a 486/[33|66] with 8MB memory, 15" monitor, and 100-200MB of disk. Probably most have a modem which is NOT used for Slip/PPP but is run under something like Seyon. The more *mandatory* SW we add to the tree that's useless to our general user makes it less likely they'll install FreeBSD, but instead go with Linux where they install what they want. Nate
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