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Date:      Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:55:50 -0600
From:      Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To:        Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Subject:   Re: sbrk(0) replacement for memory resource tracking? (was: [linimon@FreeBSD.org: svn commit: r425823 - in head: benchmarks/stress-ng cad/cider cad/ngspice_rework databases/mariadb100-server databases/mariadb101-server databases/mariadb55-server databases/virtuoso devel/ace deve...])
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Am 10.11.2016 um 02:26 schrieb Mark Linimon:
> > FYI.  Unfortunately I do not know what the generic fix is yet.  But at
> > least this will prevent the package builders from wasting time right now.
> > 
> > I will try to keep the following page updated as I learn more:
> > 
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsBrokenWithSbrk
> > 
> > (oops, I forgot I have not put in the proper logfile URLs yet.  Let me
> > get started on that.)
> > 
> > mcl
> 
> Please help me understand the issue, and if by adding one or two
> introductory paragraphs to the Wiki.


Looks like r300303 is the relevant one for aarch64 (RISC-V got a similar treatment
later?).

> To me it looks like the sbrk() function is going away from our base
> system underneath a stable 11-* branch.  If that is true, I'll have to
> object to that and request sbrk() be put back, we add a deprecation
> notice now (if necessary via errata notice) and pull it only from FreeBSD12.

At the time I somehow convinced myself that it had never been in a stable
release and was thus okay, but maybe I'm misremembering.  Hmm, or maybe it
is okay for a tier-2 architecture [in the mind of the committer, not necessarly
me, to be clear].

> OTOH, e2fsprogs uses only sbrk(0) to track its overall memory use, and
> only to track its resource usage.  I'll be happy to help porting to

Same for zephyr.

> something else that serves the same purpose, aka "how much memory am I
> using" - but what would that be?

I think there isn't really a drop-in replacement.  N.B. that the number
from sbrk(0) has been meaningless for quite some time, since jemalloc
uses mmap to get more space.

-Ben



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