From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 20:21:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CBF1065671; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) Received: from tbaytel.net (front3.tbaytel.net [216.211.26.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA968FC14; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) X-Scanned-by-Cloudmark: Yes X-Spam-Score: 0.000000 Received: from goodking.goodking.ca (account thomasa@tbaytel.net [216.211.70.139] verified) by front3.tbaytel.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.14) with ESMTPSA id 88179532; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:21:49 -0400 From: Thomas Abthorpe Organization: FreeBSD.GoodKing.Ca To: Craig Rodrigues Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:21:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200807041929.m64JTLxx060081@repoman.freebsd.org> <486FD18D.8000701@p6m7g8.com> <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org> In-Reply-To: <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org> X-Face: /|[9,PbEOB6g>?2^*Sc|"~6:Ro"O>Nv\Rfkv\42g)=?utf-8?q?TuAYG=26+bD=5CpCJTX31s=5Fp=7Bc7=5D5a=2ED=2E=0A=09Y?=@QddKu_I[XB8; euK=^[=L1I#]rgi[0jgz^4qCTwlj]3kJ)]vc}O"HrA14hN)=?utf-8?q?aXewJPTi=7C=0A=09Pt=7BS3=23Vw4x-?="/:& Cc: Craig Rodrigues , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, "Philip M. Gollucci" , cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/apr Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/devel/apr/files patch-apr-util_build_dbm.m4 patch-apr-util_configure patch-apr_hints.m4 X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tabthorpe@freebsd.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:21:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 05 July 2008 16:02:40 Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 03:54:53PM -0400, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > > The patch in the PR actually used Tools/scripts/bump_version.pl to bump > > all those ports, but it was for *some* reason not committed, > > I chose to err on the side of caution, and submit separate PR's to the > different port maintainers, since I don't like to blindly commit to > ports which I know nothing about. > I hate it when people blindly commit to APR, so I don't want to do > the same thing to other ports. > > While you submit many good ports patches, I don't really trust your > track record. If you had an actual ports commit bit, then you > would have more credibility with me to submit mega-patches which > affect many ports. If someone who knows you better can sponsor > you for a commit bit, then you can take on more of this responsibility > for yourself, instead of dumping mega-patches for committers to pick up This seems a litle harsh, the strength of the FreeBSD Project is it's volunteers, whether you are part of the "cabal" with a @FreeBSD.org address or not. Philip's track record speaks volumes. His work is thorough, and well composed. The fact he went through the effort to prepare a mega-patch shows his attention to detail. How many times has somebody simply filed a patch with no thought of the repercussions of it's impact, leaving other committers and portmgr needing to cleanup in it's wake? Almost too numerous to count, but I am sure we have all experienced it. Philip's contribution to the project in the 10 months I have been a committer can easily be quantified by a PR count and a port count, but the the intangible is the time he has spent in the background working in opensource, with a net result benefit to FreeBSD. Let us not discount the time he has spent in IRC providing feedback, and helping others along. Let's not summarily dismiss somebody just because they don't have the best address on the 'net. Seems to me we all started in that position. Ok, I will get out of the pulpit now. Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhxKVgACgkQ5Gm/jNBp8qCLtACghxKYqVl1c5oiq5d3dQX1hECL 6+EAn0jvrhk3C11X0scU3JS+1PUhX7gH =3LSr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----