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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile sensorsd.conf src/etc/defaults
 rc.conf src/etc/rc.d Makefile sensorsd src/lib/libc/gen sysctl.3
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In message: <66400.1192378445@critter.freebsd.dk>
            "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
: In message <200710141045.l9EAjW4m058732@repoman.freebsd.org>, Alexander Leiding
: er writes:
: 
: >  Log:
: >  Import OpenBSD's sysctl hardware sensors framework.
: 
: I would like to register a complaint about this commit.
: 
: When this was discussed I objected that this entire pile of crap does
: not belong in the kernel.
: 
: I still think this is a festering junkpile that does not belong in
: the kernel, and that his should be backed out, until a proper
: architectural solution has been found.
: 
: Adding a new bogus type of device tree just because on cannot be
: bothered to do things right, is the road that leads to things like
: SYSV IPC and away from a sustainable architecture for an operating
: system which is here for the long term.
: 
: Please back this out.

Seconded.  I had a number of objects as well that seem to have been
ignored.  This is very bad form for a project that tries to work
together by consensus.

Warner