From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 22 18:17:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09716 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09707 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrI-28.aei.ca [206.186.205.178]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21517; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <358F01AB.1BED3257@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:15:23 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arthur CC: "Michael P. Sale" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lists, newbies & support References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org arthur wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Michael P. Sale wrote: > > > > 1. Send out an email to all FreeBSD groups with this question. > > > > How many people on this list have been here for over a year and before > > installing FreeBSD themselves had never used a unix variant? This does not > > count people that simply walked into a shop that runs BSD and had to learn > > it with the help of co-workers. > > > > I'll bet that you get a minimal response. > > > .... I'm finally crawling out of the woodwork, No I'm not really new to > unix, but the only other varient I have used is quite basic compared to > what FreeBSD has to offer, oh yeah, I've been kicking around these mail > lists for about 1.5 years now. > > > If FreeBSD only wants customers that are familiar with unix, so be it. They > > are doing a fine job. It will continue to be a "techie" OS that is slow > > growing and will probably never really catch on. I am beginning to think > > that this is exactly what most of the "elders" at FreeBSD really want. They > > are probably already overworked and simply don't have a lot of time for > > truly newbie questions. > > > I'm in 100% agreement with this statement, and I also feel that a > properly run newbie-questions list would be very beneficial to the entire > FreeBSD project. It would be a good place for people new to unix to cut > their teeth and ready themselves for the overwhelming amount of mail that > comes from subscribing to -questions. > > > While technically, everyone may be right about some of the initial problems > > a newbies-questions list would cause, I firmly believe that from a business > > AND NEWBIE perspective (getting more people involved, understanding and > > staying with FreeBSD) a newbies-questions list is just a minimal first step > > in the correct direction. > > > Initially there would be problems, but if the list was setup as > experienced newbies helping newbies it just might have a chance. Also a > list of this type hopefully would cut down some of the traffic in > -questions and mellow out the atmosphere of that list also. > > > OK, I'll be quiet again. (This should keep Sue happy for a while. I think > > the last time I uttered that I disapeared for two months) :-) > > > > Till next time, > > > > Mike > > > ... snicker, do you think Sue helped get -newbies started by disappearing > for months at time ? ;) > Well, i agree for a good newbie-chat place. But there is that stupid question "what we will do on that channel?" Ok, I suggest A really chat channel -No hardware talking -Help on administration, but no-free answer: we should encourage man-page reading and doc reading. Like in an answer to an easy question, give an URL to a related page, but dont give the easy answer. If you do so, they will ask hundred of those kind of easy question. -FreeBSD related tips -usefull reading on FreeBSD, Unix and thing like that What do you think Sue ;-) Even if its an old topic Malartre -------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD-2.2.6 -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message