From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 31 7: 4:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF5A37B6B2 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA31125; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:58:48 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda31123; Fri Mar 31 06:58:48 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA34464; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdq34462; Fri Mar 31 06:58:35 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA27848; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:58:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003311458.GAA27848@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdy27844; Fri Mar 31 06:58:16 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: didier@omnix.net Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, Kiril Mitev , jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, cracauer@cons.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Let 3.x die ASAP? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:25:18 GMT." <200003301625.QAA76045@loki.ideaglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:58:15 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200003301625.QAA76045@loki.ideaglobal.com>, Kiril Mitev writes: > > As I recall, Didier Derny wrote: > > > I can't an many people can't upgrade the system on their machine > > > at the actual rythm of FreeBSD version (each one supposed to be the best > > > one and solve most of the problems :-))) ) > > > without a real stability (like the one with 2.x) this product > > > has no more value than linux or solaris, sco... > > > > So, is there some feature in the 3.x line that isn't in 2.2.x that > > you can't live without? If not, your course is clear. Put up a > > 2.2-STABLE system and quit worrying about stability. > > *ahem* > > In other words "do not use anything newer than 2.2 if you > worry about stability"... > > In other words "nothing in FreeBSD has improved stability > since 2.2" > > In other words "2.2 is our most stable version" > > (ever?) > > In other words ..... you get the drift ....... > > OUCH > > *off to downgrade all those servers ASAP* > > *oh, and replace them with 486's, after all 486's with > 2.2 on them have years of uptime* I think that 2.1.6 was more stable than any 2.2.x and that 3.4 is the most stable of them all (haven't used 4.0 extensively so I won't comment about it). IMO he's got a choice: Upgrade to 3.4 or downgrade to 2.1.6. My point is that if a certain release works for an individual. Stick with it and quit bitching. I'm sure there are a lot of very happy users of 2.0.5, 2.1.[67], and 2.2.8 who are doing just that: Using an old release because it works and not bitching about it. I for one, rather than bitching and complaining, have rolled up my sleeves and submitted patches to fix problems I've had. Eventually somebody either committed them in my original form or as usually was the case in a modified form. FreeBSD is not a commercial effort. It's a free-ware effort. All the arm-chair quarterbacks have no right to complain until they've either contributed to the effort or paid FreeBSD for support. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message