From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 10:49:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695D116A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:49:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy04.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A843D46 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:49:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwinculp@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from prodigy.net.mx (du-148-235-52-34.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.34]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I4S00BBBU22OA@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:49:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [148.235.52.103] (Forwarded-For: [201.129.94.187]) by nlpmail04.prodigy.net.mx (mshttpd); Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:49:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:49:42 -0500 From: edwinculp To: Julian Stacey Message-id: <214f0220df6a.20df6a214f02@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Priority: non-urgent X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Respuesta: Re: USB memory stick hotswap problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:49:15 -0000 ----- Mensaje original ----- De=3A Julian Stacey =3Cjhs=40berklix=2Eorg=3E Fecha=3A Mi=E9rcoles=2C Septiembre 29=2C 2004 4=3A34 am Asunto=3A Re=3A USB memory stick hotswap problems =3E Very telling mail that=2E Hopefully someone may find time to solve it= =2E Yes=2C I agree=2C basically because Micro=24oft has users accustomed to t= ransparently access and removal of floppies and cd=27s=2C if not my icons= wouldn=27t look like a hack=2E =3E = =3E What=27s a PITA by the way =3F Pain in the ass =3A) Have a great day=2C ed =3E = =3E Reference=3A =3E =3E From=3A edwinculp =3Cedwinculp=40prodigy=2Enet=2Emx=3E = =3E =3E Date=3A Mon=2C 27 Sep 2004 10=3A56=3A17 -0500 = =3E =3E Message-id=3A =3C1b79851b2436=2E1b24361b7985=40prodigy=2Enet=2Emx= =3E = =3E = =3E edwinculp wrote=3A =3E =3E Quoting Ivan Voras =3Civoras=40fer=2Ehr=3E=3A =3E =3E = =3E =3E =3E Daniel O=27Connor wrote=3A =3E =3E =3E=3E One possibility would be to add a facility to mark all the= = =3E data for =3E =3E =3E=3E a certain device to be non-critical so it will throw it aw= ay = =3E when it =3E =3E =3E=3E tries to flush it and fails instead of panicing=2E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E That (and a message in syslog) would be just fine=2E (=22Wind= ows = =3E does it=2C so =3E =3E =3E it=27s normal=22=2E) I know (and I think other USB drive user= s know = =3E too) that =3E =3E =3E I need to wait for the little LED on the device to stop = =3E blinking before =3E =3E =3E unplugging it=2E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E IIRC=2C Windows mounts removable drives with write caching = =3E disabled=2C so it =3E =3E =3E should probably be the same in FreeBSD=2E =3E =3E = =3E =3E Would it not be a good idea to do something like this for cd=27s = =3E and floppies=3F =3E =3E = =3E =3E I=27m substituting FreeBSD for windows in some internet cafes=2E = Not = =3E automatical=3E ly recovering from unmounted cd=27s=2C floppies and = =3E usbdev=27s=2C is probably the big =3E =3E gest PITA that I=27ve found and haven=27t been able to solve clea= nly=2E = =3E I=27ve had t =3E =3E o put icons on the kde-desktop for accessing and removing them = =3E that many just =3E =3E ignore=2E This is also the case in a corporate environment wher= e = =3E I have had t =3E =3E he same problem but they are a little better at using the =3E =3E icon because it is their pc that crashes =3A) =3E =3E = =3E =3E Thanks=2C =3E =3E = =3E =3E ed =3E =3E = =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =3E =3E freebsd-current=40freebsd=2Eorg mailing list =3E =3E http=3A//lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current =3E =3E To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to =22freebsd-current- =3E unsubscribe=40freebsd=2Eorg=22=3E = =3E =3E = =3E = =3E - =3E Julian Stacey=2E Unix=2CC=2CNet =26 Sys=2E Eng=2E Consultant=2C Muni= ch=2E = =3E http=3A//berklix=2EcomMail in Ascii=2C Html dumped as Spam=2E Ihr Ra= uch =3D = =3E mein allergischer Kopfschmerz=2E =3E