From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 14 14:09:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F42816A400 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 983E343D46 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:09:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 95010 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2006 14:09:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=zgZoy8AOjg+UGjpDhHGwryQ02WAHXuPDIYZiwzIodEzzk9m3yKXSw4EoXF6CzJx6naC6nldwFWt4ji2nwuBkf/aY/5ng8vmpsmNTaTnDLq4fgxnFh9eO3sH8IKvmdDWQOnPlQNW6sk4fTcbB0Uks9N9Hzv9HrvIKcYq6S6Aiiu4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp109.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2006 14:09:26 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <4416AC34.2030400@dial.pipex.com> Thread-Index: AcZHXIweH+k+4C+OSleRPU8Fkt3puAAERvmg Message-Id: <20060314140927.983E343D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: how does a system come up if you disable background fsck ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:09:28 -0000 >=20 > Tamouh H. wrote: >=20 > >Micah, Kris: > > > >You guys are hilarious, where can I find ppl like you ?=20 > > > >Of course I'm using a backup power, but there are 101=20 > reasons for FreeBSD to reboot by itself and when that=20 > happens, 30 minutes downtime is 30 minutes of wasted time. > > =20 > > > Since you're *so* smart, perhaps you could help us stupid=20 > people by listing those 101 reasons? In ten years of FreeBSD=20 > I've never had a system reboot except through power failure=20 > or operator action. Hardware failure can do it too, of=20 > course, and if your system is so critical, where's its backup system? >=20 > If your system is panicking, then why aren't you doing=20 > something to isolate the problem and help fix it? Assuming=20 > that there is a problem with the *system*. >=20 > --Alex >=20 > PS You can find plenty of people like Kris and Micah right here on > freebsd-questions: people giving their own time to actually=20 > help people sort out their problems. Haven't seen you doing that. >=20 Probably your whole 10 YRS of working on FreeBSD was on a P-II or AMD K6 = running a workstation in your basement, or who knows where. I contribute to this group and many other places as much as I can with = my experience and if you should check the archives you'll find my name = pop-up there many times. I also do other types of contributions to the = FreeBSD foundation and other organizations that utilize FreeBSD. I didn't complain about the system reboots (did I?), there is definitely = a problem with the system rebooting, but that is my job to resolve it = (whether being hardware or FreeBSD itself) and YES FreeBSD does have its = issues *BIG TIME* too.=20 My post was regarding the whole concept of doing background fsck or = foreground fsck if they both cause the machine not to be usable for the = duration of the fsck. I do appreciate a lot of people who take the time to address questions = on these mailings and the many more who post to various forums and = message boards. However, I don't appreciate sarcasm and useless remarks especially if = they were not intended to be humorous anyway. Anyhow thanks for the help and great support ! Tamouh