From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 15 08:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08393 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08376 Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-082.etinc.com (ppp-082.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00260; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:53:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:53:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199602151653.LAA00260@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hackers@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD Cc: isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >One thing to keep in mind is that PCs also come in 4"x4"x4" cubes that >are expandible via PC-104 bus cards. Something like this could easily >stack like firewood to fill a small space in little time. Put a >ramdisk or flashram card inot this mix, run FreeBSD on it and you have >a nice little box. I believe that these boxes are 100% PC compatible, >but am not 100% positive. They are showing up in places like the >Circuit Cellar magazine. I don't hink you'll find a pentium on one of >these boxes, but I recall seeing 386 and 486 in them. > The real point here is that many "routers" are just re-packaged PCs...the "smaller is better" argument applies if you're willing to make the necessary trade-offs. Frankly, I'd rather have the benefits of a good sized hard drive and expandabiltiy than to save a cubic foot of space. Rememberr that your talking about 2 very different kinds of users....service providers and end users. From an end users perspective there is no way that any stand-alone router can give me more utility than my single-box freebsd server/router/gateway. Even if service providers use the "big net rack mount" type units in your facility, they can score points with their customers by giving them a rather impressive server/router solution. And with protocols like Frame relay there are 50-100 times the number of end user units than there are service provider units. dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX