Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:59:00 -0600 From: Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com> To: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> Cc: Julian Stacey <jhs@berklix.org> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD Grow Large? Message-ID: <2fd864e050218185946aa8ba2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42163CB6.7040807@nbritton.org> References: <200502152327.j1FNRBQL041297@fire.jhs.private> <4212F72B.2020201@nbritton.org> <2fd864e050217072412ef0b18@mail.gmail.com> <42163CB6.7040807@nbritton.org>
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:06:30 -0600, Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> wrote: > Astrodog wrote: > > >On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:32:59 -0600, Nikolas Britton > ><freebsd@nbritton.org> wrote: > > > > > >>Julian Stacey wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Presumably that includes some who hold commit privs mainly for the > >>>freebsd.org web site. > >>> > >>>It's tedious though, how much irrelevant hot air has been dumped > >>>onto advocacy@ Re. logo preferences, considering we won't get to vote ! > >>> - Apparently commiters will vote; Presumably advocacy@ will not. > >>> - Commiters are on the commit list, & current@, > >>> I guess just a low percentage of advocacy@ are committers. > >>> - Most commiters will probably ignore advocacy@ when they vote. > >>>Deduction: people with logo preferences should contact commiters > >>>who will vote, not this advocacy@ list that likely includes few voters. > >>> > >>>Readers of advocacy@ have limited choices: > >>> - Face reality, realise logo preference on advocacy@ is hot air, Or ... > >>> - Do a load of send-pr's & be individually invited to be a commiter to > >>> src/ ports/ doc/ or www/ who can vote, Or ... > >>> - Agitate for votes for advocacy@ members (little chance I guess), Or ... > >>> - Wait for commiters (who will ignore advocacy@) to choose Their logo, > >>> then advocacy@ individuals can ignore or include logo on non > >>> freebsd.org controlled BSD advocacy sites & events that advocacy@ > >>> readers organise. > >>> > >>>Best skip the irrelevant logo debates where our views are Not wanted. > >>>Best be more constructive, & discuss what we Can do: eg collecting > >>>content for web sites to promote business adopting BSD etc. Harvesting > >>>facts such as (paraphrasing) ... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Now that you got me thinking about it... There is no reason why a group > >>of us (I'll help) couldn't fork the entire FreeBSD website, doc, etc. > >>projects and redo or create everything thats needed for a better > >>Image/PR etc. Then just point the download links to the freebsd servers. > >>This way we can just side step all the bullshit and resistance where > >>getting. We could then merge the projects when they finally see the > >>light. If we really wanted to we could just rebrand the entire FreeBSD > >>project, having are own core/committers of web designers, > >>writes/editors, marketing and business people :-). > >> > >> > > > >I suspect that would not play really well with most FreeBSD users. > > > > Thats the whole point ;-) > What is effectively a full fork, entirely for marketing purposes, without altering code, of a BSD-licensed product, seems like a good way to irritate developers too. I could run an s/FreeBSD/AstrodogBSD, release closed source, and be entirely within the license, however, I suspect that if I got any credit for my.... "Achievement", I'd have quite a few spurned developers, who wouldn't be real responsive to my PRs... not that I'd blame them. --- Harrison Grundy
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