From owner-freebsd-security Thu Oct 22 13:43:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27020 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27008 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: (qmail 8999 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Oct 1998 20:43:13 +0000 (GMT) To: Studded@gorean.org Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: default rules in rc.firewall cause problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:38:41 -0700" References: <362F7BB1.71A13EF3@gorean.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: <8997.909088993@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > First off, the > outside interface should NEVER see traffic from RFC 1918 space, so if > you have to modify this rule to get your system to work then your system > is screwed. Unfortunately, there's plenty of traffic out there with RFC 1918 addresses. From one of the nearby routers here: gw> sh access-list 104 Extended IP access list 104 ... deny ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any (2161 matches) deny ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 any (5942 matches) deny ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 any (10313 matches) ... - There are plenty of ISPs using RFC 1918 addresses for their internal links (bad idea!), which results in these addresses being visible as source addresses when you run traceroute etc. - There are plenty of installations using some form of RFC 1918 for their internal network, without sufficient filtering. This results in RFC 1918 destination addresses being visible externally - until they reach a default free router, where they are of course dropped in the bit bucket. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message