From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 11 00:20:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CF616A4CF for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:20:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5B243D53 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a001.otenet.gr [212.205.215.1]) i7B0KmIU018450; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:20:49 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7B0K8tL016629; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:20:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i7B0K8gr016628; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:20:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:20:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: JJB Message-ID: <20040811002008.GC15795@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd@pursued-with.net Subject: Re: Top posting solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:20:55 -0000 On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB wrote: > Kevin Stevens wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote: > > > >> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix > >> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email > while > >> indenting with a quote character. > > > > Not true. Pine doesn't, for example. It begins a reply with the > > cursor at the very top of the message body. > > > >> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with > their > >> own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client > built [...] > > Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something > more > > concrete than your personal definition. And more concrete than > RFC > > 1855, whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify an > > Internet standard of any kind." > > So your a hard core purest on the other side of the coin. You can > nit pick about wording all you want. It still does not detract from > the fact that there is an 'FIX' to change the behavior of MS/windows > top posting. As always, the reader has the chose in how they want to > reply to posts on this list, top or bottom posting. I apologize in advance if I jump in in what might sound like a knit-picking manner. However, if this "fix" produces messages like the one above, where all the usual mutilation of Outlook regarding quoting and wrapping the text is clearly visible... it's not a fix :-(