From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Feb 26 09:37:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03057 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03051 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hamby1.lightside.net by covina.lightside.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0tr6rU-0009YpC; Mon, 26 Feb 96 09:37 PST Received: by hamby1.lightside.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB042E.43827350@hamby1.lightside.net>; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:39:03 -0800 Message-ID: <01BB042E.43827350@hamby1.lightside.net> From: Jake Hamby To: "'Christoph Kukulies'" , "'Narvi'" Cc: "'hackers@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Win32 (was:Re: Go SCSI! Big improvement...) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:38:50 -0800 Encoding: 27 TEXT Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >But to bring FreeBSD to the desktop you need a bit more than just >emulation - otherwise microsoft will be able to point and say - on the >same hardware, FreeBSD runs all (counting, of course only windows >programs) programs mmuch slowlier. And also have a thing to compare Win95 >against on the charts... Well, TWIN (from Willows) runs pretty fast, even faster than "native" Motif, it looks like. And I don't see how FreeBSD could turn out slower than NT (which has to go through a "client-server" scheme for every API call.) I think that with a library such as TWIN, and enough programs compiled "natively" (as well as binary emulation for the rest), and don't forget MFC/C++ support, you would turn out as good or better than NT, and even Win95. >Ever tried Tcl/Tk? You can do the same under FreeBSD/XFree86 in at least >the same time + the tools are free. Tcl/Tk sounds interesting, I would like to find time to learn that. I hope it is simpler than Motif to come up with a good interface (no $3000 GUI builder tools needed?). The thing is that with VC++ and MFC, you can come up with a VERY pretty user interface with VERY little work because most of the work has been done by the application framework. You can achieve almost as good results with Motif with a $3000 GUI builder but sometimes the GUI builder itself is very unintuitive, and certainly doesn't help you MAINTAIN the program it generates as much as VC++ does with ClassWizard. ---Jake