From owner-freebsd-security Thu Jun 3 7:18:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from trump.amber.org (trump.amber.org [209.31.146.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1448315345 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petrilli@amber.org) Received: by trump.amber.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B63841860D; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990603101822.B21535@amber.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:18:22 -0400 From: Christopher Petrilli To: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" , Laurence Berland Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not freebsd related...yet References: <3755D0E4.55677E6@confusion.net> <375640B1.B901E581@vangelderen.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <375640B1.B901E581@vangelderen.org>; from Jeroen C. van Gelderen on Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 10:45:37AM +0200 X-Disclaimer: I hardly speak for myself, muchless anyone else. Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As has always been expressed to me: "Never trust anyone to design a cipher who hasn't spent their life breaking them." What that means is that until you understand what can go WRONG in design (FEAL is a good example of great theory, lousy crypto), there's no way you can even begin to sketch out ideas for a viable crypto algorithm. And if you're not going to write a viable one, why bother? Something more interesting in the crypto world would be dealing with one of the protocols for applying crypto, such as coin flipping, the proverbial poker game, or anonymous cash... Zero Knowledge Proofs might also be interesting... for example, a login system based on ZKP. Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli ``Television is bubble-gum for | petrilli@amber.org the mind.''-Frank Lloyd Wright To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message